There definitely will need to be a regular bus line from Pullman to The Joan on gamedays... is that already established?
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sturt |
How cool would it be | #1 | ||
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...to have a circular bike path that would lead from Pullman to Marshall to Ritter, back to Pullman. And if you could figure out a way to run it by riverfront park for even a short stretch, all the better.
There definitely will need to be a regular bus line from Pullman to The Joan on gamedays... is that already established? |
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Thunders1 |
Re: How cool would it be | #2 | ||
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They are talking of doing the bike paths from park to park eventually and to Pullman and river front. I think it will happen someday but will finish this first.
I think they do have a bus that takes you from MU CAfe already to the game for people who want to get their drink on. I guess that will continue. Can't wait to see this place in about 5-6 years. Will be totally different than anything we have seen. Now one thing they need is a major airport and that has been killed pretty much. Until we have a major airport then WV can not grow any bigger. Also combining Kanawha, putnam and cabell counties will be a major thing if you can talk the morons up in Charleston into doing it. Yeager has ruined this states future for big time business by fighting the regional airport that most people wanted. That would have made travel cheaper instead of going to Columbus. Morons! |
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SVHerd |
Re: Not to be negative but... | #3 | ||
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Let me first say I think Pullman looks and will be great. It is definately top notch. Shoot, as a kid I remember shopping in those stores they tore down.
Anyway, my biggest disappointment is the lack of retail stores that have been announced, so far it is eateries and the funny bone besides the theatre. They need something like Abercrombie and Fitch, Talbots, Banana Republic, even a Steve and Barry's. Something to keept he people shopping once thecopme to eat and see a flick or go to the comedy club. I was dumfounded when Vicki Shafer basically said in the HD a few weeks a go that they did not create Pullman to be a shopping area. How stupid is that mentality. Yea, its an entertainment district but unless retail is there, the novelty will wear thin quickly and people will go back top the mall to eat and shop. Heck, do you realize there is only one place within the city limits you can buy as pair of Levi jeans? the Workingmans store. That's sad. I hopefully look forward to full contingent of shops on Pullman and along 3rd Ave., how cool would that be, especially around this time of year. |
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herdman |
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Could it be because those stores don't want to locate there?
West Virginian by birth. Son of Marshall by the grace of God.
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bbcard1 |
Alternate route | #5 | ||
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A route that bisects our city made downtown a lot more accessible. The interstate passes maybe seven miles from downtonw, but a linking road makes it accessible from I-81. I have no idea whether it would be doable for Hton.
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sturt |
News from Tunica MS | #6 | ||
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via the Memphis Commercial-Appeal:
Quote: - August 26, 2004 Thursday Final Edition: "TUNICA TAX GRAB THREATENS PROGRESS" |
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sturt |
More news from the Mississippi Delta | #7 | ||
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The Washington Post
July 17, 2004 Saturday Final Edition "Poverty Tightens Grip On Mississippi Delta; Number of Young Rural Poor Rises, Study Says" Robert E. Pierre, Washington Post Staff Writer The abandoned shells of buildings along the main drag here serve as a glum backdrop for the youngsters who sit in front of them for hours, idly chatting and staring into the occasional passing car. A liquor store and convenience store are the only places to shop. The little work available is seasonal or at casinos 25 miles away. Poverty, like an annoying out-of-town cousin, has settled into this Mississippi Delta town for an extended stay. Fifty-five percent of households in this community of 350 take in less than $15,000 a year, well below the federal poverty line of $18,850 for a family of four. The last of the town's shacks, which lacked toilets and insulation, were retired only in the last decade, after Habitat for Humanity made destroying them a priority. Leroy Bush has lived here all his life, picking cotton and working odd jobs to make ends meet. A decade ago, he became a homeowner in exchange for 500 hours' worth of "sweat equity" and a promise to pay $100 a month on an interest-free mortgage that covers the cost of the land, insurance and materials. The labor was free. "Everybody here is just trying to make it," said Bush, 55, who works with his wife, Clarethea, at a nearby casino. "We do the best we can." ... |
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sturt |
News about Atlantic City, NJ | #8 | ||
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Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (Pennsylvania)
July 4, 2004 GAMBLING TRANSFORMING ATLANTIC CITY MILAN SIMONICH Mayors and governors from across America used to call this the city of inequality. Gambling palaces entertained tourists while locals lived in slums. Now the tables have turned. Twenty-six years after the first casino opened here, much of the Northeast is trying to mimic Atlantic City, which rebuilt its economy because of people who gambled and lost. Gamblers dropped $4.49 billion in Atlantic City's 12 casinos last year. Perhaps a third of the unlucky players were from the Philadelphia area, an hour's drive away on a tree-shaded expressway. Instead of letting those dollars cross the state line and disappear, Pennsylvania politicians hope to hold onto them by legalizing 14 parlors filled with slot machines. Delaware legalized slot machines at racetracks, and New York is considering the idea. New York and Connecticut have casinos operated by American Indian tribes. So Atlantic City, once denounced by those in political power, has become something of a model for state governments searching for money to the pay the bills. But whether gambling was good for Atlantic City remains a point of contention. Even though it has 40,000 residents and entertains up to 175,000 tourists a day, Atlantic City has no movie theater and one grocery store. Pawnshops, though, are plentiful. These second-hand stores, which occupy corners near opulent casinos such as Caesars and Trump Plaza, all carry the same stark advertisement -- "cash for gold." Sell your wedding ring or your best bracelet and you can get another turn at the blackjack tables or slot machines. To be sure, Atlantic City no longer is the idyllic beach town that inspired the board game Monopoly, invented saltwater taffy and attracted the Miss America Pageant. But casinos saved the town and many of its people, said Michael Epps, 38, a lawyer and the first Atlantic City native to serve on the New Jersey Casino Control Commission. "Absolutely, we are better off today because of gambling," Epps said. "Was it the only option? Probably not, but this was a good fit if you wanted to bring gambling to the East Coast." Only Nevada had casinos when New Jersey voters legalized gambling for Atlantic City in 1976. The town was dying then. Conventioneers had been complaining about Atlantic City's shabbiness since 1964, when Democrats met here to nominate Lyndon B. Johnson for president. "We had a 12-week economy with summer conventions and tourists visiting the beach," said Deputy Mayor Ernest Coursey, 42, who grew up in Atlantic City. "Everything used to die off after Labor Day." After Atlantic City's first casino opened in 1978, visitors returned. But poverty surrounded the ornate gambling palaces, prompting critics to describe the casinos as taj mahals in a war zone. Today, most of Atlantic City's blight has been erased. New houses fill the town's Northeast Inlet. More fresh housing is planned for the South Inlet, which has been cleared of shacks and rubble. A 320,000-square-foot commercial development called The Walk has sprouted in Midtown, outside the casino district. This surprised longtime casino critics, who said the gambling industry would never allow new shops and restaurants to be built outside its walls. More than 46,000 people work in Atlantic City's casinos and adjoining hotels, a total that exceeds even the most optimistic predictions of those who pushed to legalize gambling. The downside is that many employees earn minimum wage, and they fear displacement at the hands of subcontractors who might agree to work more cheaply. "Gambling is not a panacea, but I think it was a unique fit for Atlantic City," Epps said. "This town has a different history than most, and it always had kind of a sin-city image. You cannot put gambling in, say, Pittsburgh, and expect the same results." Denis Rudd, a professor at Robert Morris University who specializes in tourism and gambling, agreed. He said Atlantic City was a regional attraction that is on its way to becoming a destination resort. Pennsylvania's slot parlors will have no such drawing power. Slot machines in the Pittsburgh area and throughout Pennsylvania, he said, would be dependent on local customers, not tourists. That may keep some gamblers from exporting their money to casinos in West Virginia or New York state, but it also will mean locals have less to spend on restaurants, Pirates games and other area diversions. "Unfortunately, that's what we're going to get if gaming is local and stays local," Rudd said. Epps said Pennsylvania posed no serious threat to Atlantic City's casino business. "Gambling in Pennsylvania might be like a local amusement park that would appeal to people in the area. Atlantic City is like Disney World." Atlantic City saw its gambling revenues momentarily level off after Delaware launched its slots parlors in 1996 and Connecticut's tribal casinos opened during the past decade. Despite those blips and the increased competition, Atlantic City's casino revenues have risen each year, said Dan Heneghan, spokesman for the casino control commission. Employment in the casinos and hotels has dipped slightly since its peak in 1997, but opportunities still abound for people who want to work, Deputy Mayor Coursey said. He was just out of high school in 1981 when he got his first job in a casino hotel. He made minimum wage, but pocketed between $100 and $150 a day in tips. "At 18, it seemed like all the money in the world to me," Coursey said. "It also taught me that you could make it at a casino. You get paid every day." Coursey later clawed his way onto the Atlantic City Council after three losing campaigns. Various scandals linked to casinos have tarred city government during the past quarter century, but he remains an unabashed fan of the industry. Young people who formerly would have left Atlantic City can now make a living and buy a home in the place they grew up, he said. All but one of his nine brothers and sisters remain close by. Casino taxes support the town, supplying 80 percent of Atlantic City's $170 million budget. Forty-one percent of the money pays for police and firefighters. Coursey said the heavy emphasis on public safety was essential in a casino town. It also created more opportunities for locals. Four of his brothers, for instance, got jobs with the fire department. With time, Atlantic City's wild land speculation, in which absentee owners held onto rundown properties in hopes of making a huge sale to a casino company, eased. "People were playing real-life Monopoly, waiting for a jackpot," Epps said. "In the meantime, the city looked blighted, but that has changed, too." Most dilapidated properties gradually were bought by developers or the state's Urban Renewal Authority, enabling Atlantic City to weed out its worst buildings. Atlantic City now has almost 15,000 hotel rooms, meaning it can attract gamblers and tourists for days at a time. Hotel occupancy rates run in excess of 90 percent. Heneghan said the statistic was attributable in part to the casino industry's practice of giving away rooms to lure moneyed gamblers. Because Atlantic City sees its chance to become a destination resort, on par with Las Vegas, growth outside the gambling areas is not just possible. Suddenly, such development is likely. "All good things take time," Epps said. "You can't get a bottom-line company to come in and immediately start fixing up the town 13 blocks away. But now it's happening." The old Atlantic City, with its close-knit families, hometown restaurants and seaside amusements, is mostly a memory. In its place is something glitzier and grittier. "It's not a town like it was," Rudd said. "Gambling has taken over. But that's what they wanted." Even if locals did not want a city dominated by gambling, that is what they got. The Atlantic City of 2004 is like a patient who underwent surgery and woke up a completely different person. |
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sturt |
Need I say more? | #9 | ||
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I don't think so.
The conclusion, at least where casino gambling in Huntington, WV is concerned, is completely evident. 1. There are no large population centers close-by. 2. Tourists with money to burn are attracted to casinos where there is something there besides the casino itself. 3. In those places where the outside tourists don't turn up, casinos aren't nearly as profitable and have no choice but to fall back on attracting locals -- and in the Huntington region, that will mean plenty of low-income people, by default. 4. When low-income people come to play in a casino, the smaller their income, the greater the percentage of their income they're likely to play with (...it's called "the dream" by some, "desperation" by others). 5. I can't sum it up any better than this: "The old Atlantic City, with its close-knit families, hometown restaurants and seaside amusements, is mostly a memory. In its place is something glitzier and grittier. "It's not a town like it was," Rudd said. "Gambling has taken over. But that's what they wanted." Even if locals did not want a city dominated by gambling, that is what they got. The Atlantic City of 2004 is like a patient who underwent surgery and woke up a completely different person. Remember my breast-implants analogy? Give me the same old Huntington even with her aging face and osteoporosis anyday over a made-over Huntington that shows no connection to the town I grew up in, such as what Atlantic City is said to have experienced. The old Huntington has dignity regardless. Such a made-over Huntington as Blade proposes would have sold its soul... literally. |
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muBlade |
Re: More news from the Mississippi Delta | #10 | ||
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So now you blame poverty, lack of education and all of MS and the South's woes on casinos? Quite a reach. Just by the two articles, you have disproven this last one by showing most of these people are well below even Tunica's average.
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muBlade |
Re: News from Tunica MS | #11 | ||
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What was Tunica's average wage before gaming?
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