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I heard the Super Block is open in Huntington.... |
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I haven't been to downtown Huntington for a few months and I was just curious how it looked. Has it brought many people back to town for shopping & eating?
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BoBoThunder |
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ain't nobody gonna sway you in the slightest... i can clearly see that. Listen, you are right... i repeat YOU ARE RIGHT about the cases you sight like reno, atlantic city... etc... there are success stories... i'm not arguing that point. My point (and then i'm done with this thread)... increasing the amount of legalized gambling in a state (WV already has 24 types of it) does not ALWAYS work... to wisconsin gambling is like a money sucking leach... and iowa and south dakota look to be headed the same way... i am not calling you wrong... im just speaking of the other side of the coin... because there is another side to the coin... it works for some and not for others... that's all im saying
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sturt |
'Poppycock' | #62 | ||
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Suddenly it's fairly apparent that what is sufficient "proof" was a worthy discussion after all.
And one that Blade disingenously preferred to dismiss by doing what he ordinarily does... call it "nonsense" or something more clever than that and castigate the person(s) offering an opposing point of view. |
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muBlade |
Listen sturt. | #63 | ||
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You have no right to chastise "the professor" about denegrating you. You started name calling when you got blasted for throwing out misinformation hoping it would stick on something other than your sleeve. The only nonsense in this thread is your vain attempt at defending a stance that is undefensible. Take it like a man, son. Geesh.
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muBlade |
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Quote: And that is the only thing I ever called you on in this entire thread. You were definitive when citing only one city. And for what its worth, I have not found an example where gaming has lost money in ANY state. Quote: I noticed that each of the states you cited as having difficulties with their gaming, still have legalized gambling. In your research, did you ever come across why these states didn't discontinue their efforts? As for Wisconsin, that state doesn't even have gaming. The only gaming that I could find was on Indian reservations. I found where the state lost $1million in revenues due to a downturn in gambling licenses. Perhaps the reason is because they are gouging the Reservations. Let's gouge the Menominee for more...3 times more! I also saw your reference to the $318.61 million in loses in Wisconsin. That figure is forcasted based on social issues that arise(so says the author) due to gambling. Wisconin never directly lost $300M in gaming costs. If we allow projections of social issues to guide the economics of our government, alcohol, guns, cars, industrial facilities, and probably several other "social" programs would rank above gambling habits. Back to my old argument, I say we should ban red meat sales in Huntington because of the billions it causes us in health costs each year. ![]() |
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muBlade |
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Here is the PBS report you have cited. All costs are indirect and intangible, regardless of whether you believe them to be true. GA is alive and well in all 50 states, even ones that don't allow legalized gambling.
If it's on PBS, it has to be true! PS BoBo, don't take this as anything more that a staunch debate. ![]() |
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sturt |
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I apologize for calling you "Professor" after you summarily dismissed my words as "foolish," "nonsense" and void of "real facts."
I just thought it appropriate since you alone are the one making legitimate arguments and reasonable points here. (sic) "Indefensible?" You errantly consider yourself to argue a point when all you've done is meet your own lower standard of "proof" (ie, hometown newspapers and travel promotional material), and then require a higher standard from anyone else even when they are the ones who actually have made an attempt at illuminating something scholarly... and/or, you slap a denigrating label on the person or the opposing argument and think you've actually addressed that argument. But I see your conundrum... since you can't (or won't) perceive and ascertain the other side, it leaves you with no other option than to respond that way. Substantive? No. Ego-soothing? Absolutely. (... a strategy reminiscent of the last time you took me on like this... as I recall, you used much the same verbage as you charged my intellect to be something less than yours (or something to that effect) regarding the viability of a fifth BCS bowl game and the likelihood of a Coalition team playing in one someday... cheer up, though... everyone gets it wrong now and then... eventually you'll break this cycle, I'm sure) |
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Too bad you guys are done. I just got off the phone with MSNBC, Fox News, and CNN and I was told that I could arrange 2 hours of national broadcast time simultaneously on all 3 networks from 6pm-8pm on Sunday for you guys to really debate this topic.
Sorry, couldn't resist. Keeping the Herd Spirit alive, halfway across the Pacific.
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muBlade |
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Yeah, it's nice that you finally won one. I guess I'll have to hear about Utah for the rest of the time you visit here.
As for this argument, we'll let everyone else decide who is right re the financial profitability of gaming. You certainly didn't go out of your way on this one. ![]() |
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muBlade |
Sorry you had to suffer through it Zach. | #69 | ||
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I'm sturt's alterego. You know, the voice in his head that's always right? Too bad he rarely listens.
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bbcard1 |
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A route that bisects our city made downtown a lot more accessible. The interstate passes maybe seven miles from downtonw, but a linking road makes it accessible from I-81. I have no idea whether it would be doable for Hton.
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sturt |
Done? | #71 | ||
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Don't dispair, Zack... I've just now had some time to run a search on gaming and cities' economic prosperity... here's some information from a couple of popular magazines for now... I'll do a search in academic journals a little later.. this was just the easiest to mine... while this applies strictly to Indian reservation gaming, there are certainly some lessons to be taken from them:
Quote: - Title: THE BIG GAMBLE , By: Useem, Jerry, Fortune, 00158259, 10/02/2000, Vol. 142, Issue 7 Quote: - Title: Wheel Of Misfortune , By: Barlett, Donald L., Steele, James B., Time, 0040781X, 12/16/2002, Vol. 160, Issue 25 |
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sturt |
News from Tunica MS | #72 | ||
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via the Memphis Commercial-Appeal:
Quote: - August 26, 2004 Thursday Final Edition: "TUNICA TAX GRAB THREATENS PROGRESS" |
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sturt |
News from Glasgow, Scotland | #73 | ||
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The Herald (Glasgow)
July 19, 2004 "Giant casinos 'will lure more poor Scots into gambling';Expert fears social consequences of Clyde projects" Stephen Stewart THE number of problem gamblers will increase dramatically across Scotland if plans are approved for four mega-casinos in Glasgow, according to Europe's only professor of gambling. The respected academic fears that Glasgow's deprived communities would be most susceptible to the lure of the massive developments, which have been lauded as a keystone of the city's regeneration. Dr Mark Griffiths, professor of gambling studies at Nottingham Trent University, warned that Glasgow, which has four casinos planned, could follow the example of South Africa, where deregulation of gambling and the growth of the super-casino created an epidemic in gambling addiction. "Glasgow has pockets of poverty and deprivation and these area may be more susceptible to these casinos and the issue of problem gambling," he said. "There has to be a cost- benefit analysis about the advent of casinos and their positive and negative aspects. Poorer people have been shown to spend a disproportionate amount of money on gambling. "In South Africa, poorer people were flocking to casinos which sprung up around the townships. In some casinos, a small stake can produce a potentially life -changing win. "The UK government is introducing these unlimited jackpots (in some casino gaming machines). In the vast majority of cases, when these big destination -type casinos are opened, problem gambling increases. "People will also travel in from smaller areas to get the big gaming experience and take that back home with them, and a proportion will develop a gambling problem. The problem is effectively exported. They will go back to their smaller towns and casinos and feed their playing behaviour there." ... |
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sturt |
More news from the Mississippi Delta | #74 | ||
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The Washington Post
July 17, 2004 Saturday Final Edition "Poverty Tightens Grip On Mississippi Delta; Number of Young Rural Poor Rises, Study Says" Robert E. Pierre, Washington Post Staff Writer The abandoned shells of buildings along the main drag here serve as a glum backdrop for the youngsters who sit in front of them for hours, idly chatting and staring into the occasional passing car. A liquor store and convenience store are the only places to shop. The little work available is seasonal or at casinos 25 miles away. Poverty, like an annoying out-of-town cousin, has settled into this Mississippi Delta town for an extended stay. Fifty-five percent of households in this community of 350 take in less than $15,000 a year, well below the federal poverty line of $18,850 for a family of four. The last of the town's shacks, which lacked toilets and insulation, were retired only in the last decade, after Habitat for Humanity made destroying them a priority. Leroy Bush has lived here all his life, picking cotton and working odd jobs to make ends meet. A decade ago, he became a homeowner in exchange for 500 hours' worth of "sweat equity" and a promise to pay $100 a month on an interest-free mortgage that covers the cost of the land, insurance and materials. The labor was free. "Everybody here is just trying to make it," said Bush, 55, who works with his wife, Clarethea, at a nearby casino. "We do the best we can." ... |
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sturt |
News from Calgary, Alberta | #75 | ||
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Calgary Herald (Alberta, Canada)
July 11, 2004 Sunday Final Edition Game of chance: Tourists don't come to Alberta for the gambling. Instead, the province's booming VLTs, casinos and bingo halls are fed by loyal homegrown gamblers. As the industry expands, the stakes are getting higher. Linda Slobodian ==================== Lady Luck's humble beginnings in Alberta trace back to the 1920s when she started prowling around church basements. Once a week her beckoning finger offered gamblers lucky enough to yell "bingo" a chance to win jackpots worth a few dollars. A few dollars more went to the church for good works to be done for the poor and disadvantaged. Fast-forward to Alberta 2004. Lady Luck beckons 24/7 -- luring gamblers to 2,111 lottery ticket terminals; 5,995 video lottery terminals in 1,139 locations; 6,347 slot machines in 16 casinos; two racetracks and 53 bingo halls. In 2002-03 more than $1.1 billion in profits from all gambling sources went into Alberta government coffers. Another $205 million went directly to charities, projects and causes. More than 82 per cent of Albertans gamble -- be it a $1 scratch ticket or $1,000-a-hand wagers at casino tables. The government is betting this quest to win Lady Luck's favour will intensify -- anticipating a profit of $599 million from VLTs and $509 million from slot machines alone in 2004-2005. Critics have long argued the market is glutted with too many gambling places. Buckling to pressure, the government put a cap on the number of VLTs and mildly reduced the number of locations where they can be installed. Then it lifted a two-year moratorium on casinos, recently approving expansions for some existing facilities and approving licences for two new multi-million-dollar casinos with hundreds of tables, slot machines and wheels. Proposals for another 16 new casinos throughout the province, seven of them on reserves, are before the Alberta Gaming and Liquor Commission. Alberta is not a gambling tourist destination and depends largely on its own citizens to keep the industry going. In an effort to keep interest from waning and to compete for dollars, casinos in particular have been forced to get glitzier and offer more gimmicks and attractions to draw gamblers in. The government, charities and casino owners continue to cash in on Lady Luck's more sophisticated image. As appealing as she may be, she's got a dark and sinister side. It's called addiction. The Alberta Alcohol and Drug Abuse Commission (AADAC) says five per cent of Albertans who gamble are addicts. A 2002 AADAC study found 9.5 per cent of junior and high school students are problem gamblers. Experts say research into and treatment of this vice that ruins lives is in its infancy... "Governments always call it the Gaming Department. It's never the Gambling Department. They're making it sounds like it's benign, it's just gaming, just checkers. It is a spin on words," said Gray. "Gambling attacks, feeds on the quality of life. It diminishes our standards and our values as Canadians," said the community activist and former CEO of Canadian Hunter Exploration. It isn't only the addiction of gamblers that concern Gray. Governments across Canada have become addicted to gambling revenues, said Gray, who spearheaded the 1998 petition to get the issue of controversial VLTs -- accepted as the crack cocaine of gambling -- on the ballot in the provincial election. Fifty-eight per cent of Calgarians decided they wanted to have the choice to play video lottery VLTs. "I lament the fact that governments, aboriginal bands, even charities get themselves locked in to a dependency on revenues from gambling," he said. "Governments like to distribute some of the money they get from gambling because that helps them whitewash the money. Charities get addicted to the money and then the charities get addicted to gambling." Gambling, said Gray, is a national issue in the hands of the provinces. In the 1980s the federal government transferred proceeds of gambling rights to the provinces. Despite skyrocketing revenues, not everyone is happy with the popularity of gambling that exploded in the 1990s -- coinciding with the increase of electronic gambling like VLTs that came to Alberta in 1992. "I've talked to many of the premiers and a lot of politicians. In terms of their values, in terms of the morality, they'd like to disengage in many places across Canada," said Gray. "But they get addicted to the money. They can't replace the money. They don't know how to disengage." Why the greed, Gray wonders. "In Alberta do we need the $1.1 billion? Could we get along with three or four hundred million less dollars? Of course." The Alberta government's gambling intake rose from $81.5 million in 1989/90 to $1.1 billion in 2002/03. In 1995/96 charities received almost $96 million compared with $205 million in 2002/2003. In that same period, Alberta charities received $200 million from the Alberta Lottery Fund, over and above the $205 million they directly received from running casinos and bingos. The cost of governments profiting from the "weakest and most vulnerable" of citizens who suffer "a manic addiction" is painfully high, said Gray. "In these get rich quick schemes, the odds are so horribly stacked against the player. . . What does worry me is the regressive form of taxation it is on those that can ill-afford to lose money. "Statistics prove that for every pathologically addicted gambler, it affects another 30 or 40 people -- wives, husbands, co-workers, children, friends, associates -- when somebody goes bankrupt, takes their life, gets fired or becomes depressed," said Gray. The number of identified problem gamblers should raise huge red flags. "Five per cent of the population, these damaged people, is a very, very large percentage," said Gray. "We have about three million people in Alberta. That's 150,000 to 200,000 people caught up in this. That's a lot of people. When you use those multipliers that's an impact on a lot of families," said Gray. "If anything else was to start to damage 200,000 people in Alberta we'd be up in arms doing something about it. If people were becoming injured with tainted water this would be a crisis of unimaginable proportion." Gray criticized the $5 million allocated to AADAC to treat problem gamblers. "It's a trickle of money," he said. "AADAC should have far larger amounts of funding. It's nothing -- $5 million out of $1 billion." What disturbs Gray is that gambling saturated the province with little or no public debate. "My purpose always has been that there should be public discussion before things are done. There should be public hearings, there should be public input and it should be thorough." That was the beauty of the 1998 VLT plebiscite, he said. "It was a democratic debate. We lost most of them by three or four percentage points. In Edmonton it was almost by a single percentage point. I wasn't so disappointed as I was encouraged that we had a debate." Gray stressed he is very supportive of the Klein government, but not on the issue of gambling. "I believe we should be showing some leadership by not maximizing and promoting gambling," he said. "My feeling is its the responsibility of all our elected officials -- be they NDP, Liberal, Conservative, you name it, they are responsible for protecting the people," said Gray. "None of them are. Nobody has shown leadership in this issue. Nobody." Even though gambling has been around a long time "we're still struggling with what our comfort level is," said David Hodgins of the Gaming Research Institute and an associate professor of clinical psychology at the University of Calgary. "I think with any addictive behavior or substance society has to find the comfort level. We have established a comfort level with alcohol," he said. Rules like establishing a legal drinking age and .08 driving limit have helped. "From a psychological perspective what's important is that there be good public awareness of the risks of gambling," said Hodgins. "It's up there with drug abuse. More people are experiencing gambling problems than schizophrenia." Gamblers who come to him for help describe a lot of adverse consequences of their habits, he said. Almost everybody identifies financial problems along with depression, suicidal thoughts that are sometimes acted out, distress, panic, a negative impact on family and friends, work suffering and poor physical health. In 2003 the Quebec coroner's office linked 100 suicides over a few years directly to gambling, primarily VLTs. Hodgins' priority is to conduct a long-term study of problem gambling. He is part of a team of researchers at the University of Calgary, conducting a national research study looking at self-help approaches to overcoming gambling addictions. Hodgins, who is still looking for volunteers for the confidential study (call 1-877-437-3777), points to a recent study he did involving 101 participants using the self-recovery approach. He found that 30 per cent were able to completely quit gambling by 12 months and almost 60 per cent cut their gambling by half. "Part of why we need to do research is we need to make up for lost time," said Hodgins, referring to the fact that gambling and its associated woes have already saturated the province. "Many people recover on their own. It takes them many years to do that. We found that 10 per cent seek help. What do you do for the other 90 per cent?" Hodgins is skeptical of safeguards put in place by the government to discourage problem gambling. "The closer somebody lives to a casino, the more likely gambling is a problem," said Hodgins. He's not all that encouraged by changes to VLTs this year, including a message popping up to show gamblers how long they've been playing "It's like a light cigarette. . . but the cigarette smoker puffs more heavily on it," he said. "To limit gambling to gambling locations like casinos may be a safer alternative," said Hodgins. Not if one is an aboriginal with a casino proposal on their reserve, said a recent study conducted by two University of Alberta professors. The study concluded aboriginals are at an elevated risk of developing gambling addictions. Supporters of seven proposals for casinos on reserves before the Alberta Gaming and Liquor Commission argue they will create jobs, raise money for housing and social programs. Some worry area businesses, particularly the food industry which can't compete with cheap casino prices, will suffer as was the case when a casino opened in Windsor, Ont. Critics claim casinos will devastate citizens with a penchant for gambling. One need only look to the U.S. to see they've proven a gamble for aboriginals. On one hand, some reserves anticipating Utopia still live in poverty despite casinos on their lands. On the other hand, California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger is eyeing the massive profits of tribal-operated casinos to help downsize California's $15-billion budget shortfall. He demanded that the state's 54 casinos renegotiate conditions and cough up a collective $500 million. Considering that Alberta is not a tourist destination and the casinos will tap into local dollars may be cause for concern, said Robert Williams, a University of Lethbridge professor and member of the Alberta Gaming Research Institute. "Vegas is a really good example of a highly successful casino industry. Ninety per cent of revenues are derived from other jurisdictions. There's a net inflow of wealth," said Williams. "All of the social problems are shipped home with tourists. That being said, Nevada and Las Vegas are still the suicide capitals of the world."... |
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News about Atlantic City, NJ | #76 | ||
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Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (Pennsylvania)
July 4, 2004 GAMBLING TRANSFORMING ATLANTIC CITY MILAN SIMONICH Mayors and governors from across America used to call this the city of inequality. Gambling palaces entertained tourists while locals lived in slums. Now the tables have turned. Twenty-six years after the first casino opened here, much of the Northeast is trying to mimic Atlantic City, which rebuilt its economy because of people who gambled and lost. Gamblers dropped $4.49 billion in Atlantic City's 12 casinos last year. Perhaps a third of the unlucky players were from the Philadelphia area, an hour's drive away on a tree-shaded expressway. Instead of letting those dollars cross the state line and disappear, Pennsylvania politicians hope to hold onto them by legalizing 14 parlors filled with slot machines. Delaware legalized slot machines at racetracks, and New York is considering the idea. New York and Connecticut have casinos operated by American Indian tribes. So Atlantic City, once denounced by those in political power, has become something of a model for state governments searching for money to the pay the bills. But whether gambling was good for Atlantic City remains a point of contention. Even though it has 40,000 residents and entertains up to 175,000 tourists a day, Atlantic City has no movie theater and one grocery store. Pawnshops, though, are plentiful. These second-hand stores, which occupy corners near opulent casinos such as Caesars and Trump Plaza, all carry the same stark advertisement -- "cash for gold." Sell your wedding ring or your best bracelet and you can get another turn at the blackjack tables or slot machines. To be sure, Atlantic City no longer is the idyllic beach town that inspired the board game Monopoly, invented saltwater taffy and attracted the Miss America Pageant. But casinos saved the town and many of its people, said Michael Epps, 38, a lawyer and the first Atlantic City native to serve on the New Jersey Casino Control Commission. "Absolutely, we are better off today because of gambling," Epps said. "Was it the only option? Probably not, but this was a good fit if you wanted to bring gambling to the East Coast." Only Nevada had casinos when New Jersey voters legalized gambling for Atlantic City in 1976. The town was dying then. Conventioneers had been complaining about Atlantic City's shabbiness since 1964, when Democrats met here to nominate Lyndon B. Johnson for president. "We had a 12-week economy with summer conventions and tourists visiting the beach," said Deputy Mayor Ernest Coursey, 42, who grew up in Atlantic City. "Everything used to die off after Labor Day." After Atlantic City's first casino opened in 1978, visitors returned. But poverty surrounded the ornate gambling palaces, prompting critics to describe the casinos as taj mahals in a war zone. Today, most of Atlantic City's blight has been erased. New houses fill the town's Northeast Inlet. More fresh housing is planned for the South Inlet, which has been cleared of shacks and rubble. A 320,000-square-foot commercial development called The Walk has sprouted in Midtown, outside the casino district. This surprised longtime casino critics, who said the gambling industry would never allow new shops and restaurants to be built outside its walls. More than 46,000 people work in Atlantic City's casinos and adjoining hotels, a total that exceeds even the most optimistic predictions of those who pushed to legalize gambling. The downside is that many employees earn minimum wage, and they fear displacement at the hands of subcontractors who might agree to work more cheaply. "Gambling is not a panacea, but I think it was a unique fit for Atlantic City," Epps said. "This town has a different history than most, and it always had kind of a sin-city image. You cannot put gambling in, say, Pittsburgh, and expect the same results." Denis Rudd, a professor at Robert Morris University who specializes in tourism and gambling, agreed. He said Atlantic City was a regional attraction that is on its way to becoming a destination resort. Pennsylvania's slot parlors will have no such drawing power. Slot machines in the Pittsburgh area and throughout Pennsylvania, he said, would be dependent on local customers, not tourists. That may keep some gamblers from exporting their money to casinos in West Virginia or New York state, but it also will mean locals have less to spend on restaurants, Pirates games and other area diversions. "Unfortunately, that's what we're going to get if gaming is local and stays local," Rudd said. Epps said Pennsylvania posed no serious threat to Atlantic City's casino business. "Gambling in Pennsylvania might be like a local amusement park that would appeal to people in the area. Atlantic City is like Disney World." Atlantic City saw its gambling revenues momentarily level off after Delaware launched its slots parlors in 1996 and Connecticut's tribal casinos opened during the past decade. Despite those blips and the increased competition, Atlantic City's casino revenues have risen each year, said Dan Heneghan, spokesman for the casino control commission. Employment in the casinos and hotels has dipped slightly since its peak in 1997, but opportunities still abound for people who want to work, Deputy Mayor Coursey said. He was just out of high school in 1981 when he got his first job in a casino hotel. He made minimum wage, but pocketed between $100 and $150 a day in tips. "At 18, it seemed like all the money in the world to me," Coursey said. "It also taught me that you could make it at a casino. You get paid every day." Coursey later clawed his way onto the Atlantic City Council after three losing campaigns. Various scandals linked to casinos have tarred city government during the past quarter century, but he remains an unabashed fan of the industry. Young people who formerly would have left Atlantic City can now make a living and buy a home in the place they grew up, he said. All but one of his nine brothers and sisters remain close by. Casino taxes support the town, supplying 80 percent of Atlantic City's $170 million budget. Forty-one percent of the money pays for police and firefighters. Coursey said the heavy emphasis on public safety was essential in a casino town. It also created more opportunities for locals. Four of his brothers, for instance, got jobs with the fire department. With time, Atlantic City's wild land speculation, in which absentee owners held onto rundown properties in hopes of making a huge sale to a casino company, eased. "People were playing real-life Monopoly, waiting for a jackpot," Epps said. "In the meantime, the city looked blighted, but that has changed, too." Most dilapidated properties gradually were bought by developers or the state's Urban Renewal Authority, enabling Atlantic City to weed out its worst buildings. Atlantic City now has almost 15,000 hotel rooms, meaning it can attract gamblers and tourists for days at a time. Hotel occupancy rates run in excess of 90 percent. Heneghan said the statistic was attributable in part to the casino industry's practice of giving away rooms to lure moneyed gamblers. Because Atlantic City sees its chance to become a destination resort, on par with Las Vegas, growth outside the gambling areas is not just possible. Suddenly, such development is likely. "All good things take time," Epps said. "You can't get a bottom-line company to come in and immediately start fixing up the town 13 blocks away. But now it's happening." The old Atlantic City, with its close-knit families, hometown restaurants and seaside amusements, is mostly a memory. In its place is something glitzier and grittier. "It's not a town like it was," Rudd said. "Gambling has taken over. But that's what they wanted." Even if locals did not want a city dominated by gambling, that is what they got. The Atlantic City of 2004 is like a patient who underwent surgery and woke up a completely different person. |
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Abstracts from academic journals | #77 | ||
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Title: A Von Thnen Model of Crime, Casinos and Property Values in New Jersey
Author(s): Andrew J. Buck ; Joseph Deutsch ; Simon Hakim ; Uriel Spiegel ; J. Weinblatt Source: Urban Studies Volume: 28 Number: 5 Page: 673 -- 686 Publisher: Carfax Publishing, part of the Taylor & Francis Group Abstract: Urban economic models suggest that, ceteris paribus, land values diminish with distance from a central business district (CBD) which 'produces' employment, income and other amenities. A new industry like casino gaming may have jobs and increased income associated with it. These amenities will induce an increase in property values. The size of that increase diminishes with distance from the city centre. The new industry may have the negative by-product of crime, which is hypothesised to have a reversed, although systematic, effect upon land values. That is, it pays to live in the hinterlands far from the source of crime. Thus, theoretically, the net effect of amenities as a function of distance from the central city is ambiguous. Applying the model to Atlantic City shows that the casinos have brought jobs, additional income and greater real estate values to the region, but the positive impact diminishes with distance from the city centre. However, crime has increased at a rate greater than that which existed prior to the casinos. The cost of crime resulting from casinos, as reflected in unrealised assessed real estate valuation, appears to be on average $5.2m per square mile in 1986 (current prices) in the South Jersey area. For an average community in the area it would amount in 1986 to a total of approximately $105m. ========================== Impact of Light, Medium and Heavy Spenders on Casino Destinations: Segmenting Gaming Visitors Based on Amount of Non-gaming Expenditures. Authors: Moufakkir, Omar1 Omoufak@chn.nl Singh, A. J.2 singharj@msu.edu Moufakkir-van der Woud, Afke3 vande197@msu.edu Holecek, Donald F.4 dholecek@msu.edu Source: Gaming Research & Review Journal; 2004, Vol. 8 Issue 1, p59, 13p, 11 charts Document Type: Article Abstract: This article discusses the viability of targeting heavy spenders on non-gaming products and services in gaming travel marketing. A sample of visitors to two commercial casinos was divided into light, medium and heavy spenders based on spending per person per day, excluding gambling. Findings indicated that a large number of heavy-spending tourists were not interested in gaming, but in the destination's other tourism products. This suggests that the region's tourism assets play an important role in enhancing casino visitation. Promoting the casino as part of the overall tourism attractions may benefit both the casino and related businesses in the community. ============================= The demand for casino gaming. Authors: Thalheimer, Richard1 rtha@gte.net Ali, Mukhtar M.2 Source: Applied Economics; 5/20/2003, Vol. 35 Issue 8, p907, 12p Abstract: In this study an econometric model is developed to examine the determinants of the demand for casino gaming, specifically the demand for slot machine wagering at riverboats and racinos. In addition to examining the effects of traditional demand variables, the effect on wagering of variables such as location of a wagering facility and of government restrictions, is examined. A unique measure of accessibility of market area customers to a facility and to competing facilities was developed. The demand for wagering at a facility was found to increase as access by customers in its market area increases and to decrease as access by its customers to competing riverboats, racinos or Indian casinos increases. Government restrictions were found to have an adverse effect on wagering at a riverboat. On the other hand, wagering at a riverboat was found to increase when such restrictions were imposed on competing riverboats. The presence of total loss limits and restrictions on boarding times at a riverboat were found to have reduced wagering by 36% and 35%, respectively. With respect to traditional demand variables, slot machine wagering demand was found to be price elastic at the beginning of the sample period declining to slightly below unit elasticity by the end of the period. Table games offered at a gaming facility were found to be substitutes for slot machines. Demand was found to be negatively related to per capita income at lower income levels and positively related at higher income levels. The proportion of income wagered was found to be greater at upper and lower income levels relative to middle income levels. Demand was found to be positively related to days of operation and number of slot machines. (Translation: Among low-income players at table games, the less income they had, the higher the demand... and compared to middle income players at table games, the proportion of income wagered by low income players (and less surprisingly nor worrisome, high income players) was greater.) ======================== |
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Need I say more? | #78 | ||
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I don't think so.
The conclusion, at least where casino gambling in Huntington, WV is concerned, is completely evident. 1. There are no large population centers close-by. 2. Tourists with money to burn are attracted to casinos where there is something there besides the casino itself. 3. In those places where the outside tourists don't turn up, casinos aren't nearly as profitable and have no choice but to fall back on attracting locals -- and in the Huntington region, that will mean plenty of low-income people, by default. 4. When low-income people come to play in a casino, the smaller their income, the greater the percentage of their income they're likely to play with (...it's called "the dream" by some, "desperation" by others). 5. I can't sum it up any better than this: "The old Atlantic City, with its close-knit families, hometown restaurants and seaside amusements, is mostly a memory. In its place is something glitzier and grittier. "It's not a town like it was," Rudd said. "Gambling has taken over. But that's what they wanted." Even if locals did not want a city dominated by gambling, that is what they got. The Atlantic City of 2004 is like a patient who underwent surgery and woke up a completely different person. Remember my breast-implants analogy? Give me the same old Huntington even with her aging face and osteoporosis anyday over a made-over Huntington that shows no connection to the town I grew up in, such as what Atlantic City is said to have experienced. The old Huntington has dignity regardless. Such a made-over Huntington as Blade proposes would have sold its soul... literally. |
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What was Tunica's average wage before gaming?
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So now you blame poverty, lack of education and all of MS and the South's woes on casinos? Quite a reach. Just by the two articles, you have disproven this last one by showing most of these people are well below even Tunica's average.
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